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Bingo names -

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Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers#List of British bingo nicknames for a centralized discusion as to whether Bingo names should be included in thiese articles. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:34, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Municipal Okrugs of Saint Petersburg

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Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers#Municipal Okrugs of Saint Petersburg for a centralized discusion as to whether Municipal Okrugs of Saint Petersburg should be included in these pages. Certes (talk) 11:57, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Revision Notes

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I saw the reward claimed by promoting 69 (number) to GA status, and the reason that someone posted a reward was that there are so few examples of how to write small number items. I don't know if I will promote this GA status, but I decided to contribute a little by at least prosifying one of my favorite numbers. To that end, I wanted to document some content decisions I made in the interest of advancing the discussion of how to write them. (And, tbh, preserving the information I removed in case it should go back in later.)

  • Many of these number articles have WP:CRUFT issues, and 54 was no exception. I removed information that seemed coincidental; that is, it was not something associated with the number 54 as a number or as a significant identifier.
    • Under "In other fields"
      • A broadcast television channel number (Not an identifier because channels vary by provider)
      • New York's Warwick New York Hotel is on West 54th Street (There are many such streets in many such places)
      • The number of cards in a deck of playing cards, if two jokers are included (Pure coincidence. IMO, it is more common to refer to decks of cards as something like "52 and jokers." 52 as an important number for standard cards would obviously be notable within the 52 article, though, because of cultural saturation.)
      • The number of countries in Africa (Pure coincidence. Not a static number, either, because the political situation in an area could change at any time.)
      • Fewest points in an NBA playoff game: Chicago (96), Utah (54), June 7, 1998 (Pure coincidence; game-specific trivia. And by that I don't mean "sport-specific." I mean "specific-game-within-the-sport-specific." Someone would look up a lowest-scores in Basketball article to find this information.)
      • The New York Rangers won the Stanley Cup in 1994, 54 years after their previous Cup win. It is the longest drought in the trophy's history. (Pure coincidence. I am slightly on the fence about this one because the Curse of 1940 is probably quite significant to this geographic area of people, and they probably know that it was 54 years. It also helps that it will always actually be 54 years. However, I still firmly come down on saying it is a coincidence because I doubt they literally associate the number 54 as a symbol for the Curse.
      • In racing, 54 is associated with the car driven by NASCAR's Lennie Pond. More recently, it is known as the Nationwide Series car number for Kyle Busch. (I think it would be weird to imply the need of a full list of sports jersey numbers. Certainly, some numbers in some sports could warrant mention like this, but I don't think these are the ones. I could be wrong, though. I don't know much about NASCAR culture. If I had to fit this under a guideline, it's WP:UNDUE, I guess.)
      • I removed an image of a Rubiks cube with the caption "A Rubik's Cube has 54 colored squares." (Pure coincidence. Certainly closer to the theme of the article because it is counting and numerical. And the cube is obviously a popular concept. However, I don't think an isometric view of a cube is a good representation of the number. By definition, the picture can only actually show 27 squares at a time. I left a demonstrative image showing 54 constructed out of squares that also cannot literally show a count of 54 because it was demonstrating a mathematical property of 54, which fits the article theme better.)
  • In contrast, I retained information that was more designation-based. E.g., I kept the art with the literal titles and explained their relationship to 54, I kept the astronomical designations, and I kept xenon. Car 54, Where Are You? is a "sure, why not" extension from the literal name titles, tbh.
    • I added ASCII because it is a common designation in a universally-used system. The addition leans CRUFT-y because programmers probably don't know that 54 means 6 like they know 20 means space. But it's similar to the astronomical designations in that way. I got the idea from 69.
  • I had a better reason for retaining the CRUFT-y Hitchiker's Guide factoid than "6x9=54, not 42." I was going to remove it, but I noticed the anecdote about base 13 and thought it was a delightful math coincidence that touched on number theory. Sure, fine.
  • I added the list of basic calculations because I saw it on the 5 article, and I intend to finish importing that structure. I just think it's neat, mostly. Someone who is brain-rotted enough to stumble on the 54 Wikipedia article might be interested in the first few multiples of 54, etc.
  • I have not yet made hard decisions about the math section because it will be more difficult; my math background is a computer science degree that has languished for several years. But I will say that I provisionally added the observations about ban numbers under recreational math just because it is true that it is an aban number, for instance. But ban numbers are one of those recreational math concepts based entirely on a coincidence with a separate system (here, the English language), so I'm not convinced it is entirely necessary and it might be difficult to "know when to stop" so to speak. What are the qban numbers, right? But, on the other hand, the article would obviously be incomplete without a reference to composite numbers, and the infinity of composite numbers is probably bigger than the infinity of aban numbers. Prove it and publish, lol.
  • With regards to tense, I prefer talking about things in the past tense when the sentence is about specific items created in the past. If we're talking about properties that continue to exist, I use present tense.

lethargilistic (talk) 21:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Other than the celestial bodies, pretty much, I have excluded things rotely named 54 with a serial number. E.g., I have excluded "Mark 54" weaponry like Type 54 pistol, military units named "Whatever 54" like No. 54 Squadron RAF, and any "Symphony No. 54" (not that there are many of those anymore). I don't think there is a principled, coherent way to distinguish the celestial bodies from these. Perhaps an FA would need to include some of them. But I don't feel like researching weaponry for this for-fun side project and the article should be stable enough for GA without them.
    • The list of celestial bodies could be expanded further with references to 54 Piscium, but that might be indulgent.
  • Similarly, I have excluded references to 54 based on years like 1954. The novel 54 (named such because it s) was an obvious exception because it was a notable art piece with the literal name 54.
  • I'm on the fence about retaining the area of France designated 54 because it implies the inclusion of other places with similar designations like NA-54 Rawalpindi-III. I do not think it implies the inclusion of any "54th state of this federal country," however.

lethargilistic (talk) 22:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following is a list of the mathematical properties that appear in 69 and whether they apply to 54:

lethargilistic (talk) 01:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Through the previous exercise and an exhaustive look through {{Classes of natural numbers}}, I found the following concepts did apply to 54:

lethargilistic (talk) 03:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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